Gathering information for the decision time

12 years 5 months ago #40140 by Groucho Marx
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Could we get real here? There are people that lose their sexual function. People have leakages, and problems voiding themselves. I talked to the surgeon and have done a lot of reading. So let's lose the rose tinted glasses.

How does emptying your new bladder work in less than ideal conditions? I am thinking the Indiana pouch would free me from the filthy toilet seats. Where do they put the stoma?

What happens with one thing and another and you fail to relieve your self on schedule? with a natural bladder, you just become more and more uncomfortable.

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12 years 5 months ago #40139 by Herb
Groucho -- Secret Word is LIFE!

Age 72 had radical 9/11/10 have conduit everything is fine, grateful to be a cancer survivor. Lost Dad and Brother to Cancer both in their 50's.

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12 years 5 months ago #40138 by GKLINE
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Groucho

"Mutilation or Early Death!" Now that's the silliest thing I ever heard! To quote Groucho.

Of course you will choose life. I had the BIG RC when I was 53 (3 years ago) and I was NOT mutulated. As a matter of fact, last summer I was commenting about how I couldn't even see the scar anymore. I could feel the scar tissue but "I don't look too bad in the buff if I say so myself" As for the sexual disfunction... I had a nerve sparing surgery and after a year I was able to perform.
So....... mutilation is out of the question with a good surgeon.

Let's move on to an early death. NOT! And this is really NOT an option I will let you consider. I have spent the last year holding the hand of a friend who's brother in law had bladder cancer..... didn't want to talk to me.....didn't want to go see a bladder cancer specialist...... didn't want to look at this site.... didn't want to get a second opinion... didn't want to lose his sexual funtion ..... didn't want to choose life. He Just Died from metasticised bladder cancer!

I must make this disclaimer.... Your results may vary due to any # of things, but, come on! Get to a baldder cancer specialist and get your second life going. Will it be different? Oh yeah! Will there be bunps in the road? Oh yeah!
My life is different but better in many ways! And, Oh yeah, I'm alive! Working, playing, skiing, golfing, having a second chance at life!

You will too. We will make choose Life!

George

Light a man a fire and he is warm for an evening.
Light a man ON fire and he's warm forever.

08/08/08...RC neo bladder
09/09/09...New Hip
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New Man! [/size]

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12 years 5 months ago #40135 by SailorMan
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I don't know what you've heard about the diversion options but I know many people with each of them that live very active and fulfilling lives. I was diagnosed at age 52 and had my bladder out a few months later. That was over three years ago and I've travelled both domestically and internationally for work and only a little bit domestically for pleasure (damn job/kids/economy) but I lead a pretty decent and active life. Are there challenges, sure there are but we adapt and overcome.

I had my neobladder installed in July of 08 and started working part tiem from home less than two weeks after the surgery. that was only 3 hrs/day but I gradually increased it until going back to my office at 8 weeks and a 3 day business trip the week after that.

As for "relations", there are never guarantees but a skilled surgeon is frequently able to spare the nerves. I had NO issues with function as soon as my incisions healed except for of course, no "emissoin". Medications that I started taking in the years since have more of an impact than the surgery.

The most important thing getting a GOOD surgeon and medical team. Unless you KNOW for sure that your doctor or the local hospital sees many of these per month, you need to look to a major Bladder Cancer center if at all possible. I know many people who have travelled by plane to have the actual major operation and the results and care at places like Memorial Sloan Kettering, Cleveland Clinic, MD Anderson and Johns Hopkins are very good.

To summarize. Getting your bladder removed need not be the end of life or activity. I know one woman in Chicago with a neobladder who has young children and has run a marathon. . . yes AFTER having a neobladder. Several who bike many miles as in over 50 per day. A lot of folks who travel extensively and hike, swim, golf, etc.

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12 years 5 months ago #40134 by mmc
Groucho,

I had my bladder removed (and the prostate) 3 years ago now and I'm three years cancer free.

I can do everything I did before. If your prostate is not cancerous, they can typically do nerve sparing surgery. With that surgery, your probability of regaining erectile function is very high. You should discuss this with the Dr. at Pitt. Whoever the top surgeon is there with the most experience.

Once the cancer is in the muscle wall, the chance of it spreading further starts increasing. The sooner it is out, the better the chance that they can get it all and you can live a long and happy life.

I'm 52 and don't even know what euchre is and have no plans for the senior center. I scuba dive, golf, and do everything I did before. It's a scary time when you first find out about this. Chances of a long life are high if treated aggressively and early.

Let us know if you have any particular questions. We're happy to help if we can. Many of us have been where you are now and we're doing just fine without our old cancerous bladders.

Mike

Age 54
10/31/06 dx CIS (TisG3) non-invasive (at 47)
9/19/08 TURB/TUIP dx Invasive T2G3
10/8/08 RC neobladder(at 49)
2/15/13 T4G3N3M1 distant metastases(at 53)
9/2013 finished chemo -cancer free again
1/2014 ct scan results....distant mets
2/2014 ct result...spread to liver, kidneys, and lymph...

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12 years 5 months ago - 12 years 5 months ago #40131 by Cynthia
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Mr. Marx or can I call you Groucho? I felt that you would get a better response if your post had its own thread and it deserved it own so it has been moved here.

I remember my first reaction to having my bladder removed was that I would rather die I was in the best shape of my life and 47. But when push came to shove I had a Radical Cystectomy done I chose life. I am 55 now and my diversion is a part of my new normal. It has not always been easy and if I had a choice it is not what I would have chosen to happen to me but it did and I had to deal with it. My live is full I snorkel, hike, dance and do all the things I have always done. It was very hard to get my mind around but in order to live I had to, I am very glad I did or I would have missed some of the best years of my life.

We are here if you need us, I am sure now that you have your own thread others will chime in.

Cynthia Kinsella
T2 g3 CIS 8/04
Clinical Trial
Chemotherapy & Radiation 10/04-12/04
Chemotherapy 3/05-5/05
BCG 9/05-1-06
RC w/umbilical Indiana pouch 5/06
Left Nephrectomy 1/09
President American Bladder Cancer Society

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