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Invasive Bladder Cancer

9 years 11 months ago #32552 by mmc
When we refer to it as "invasive", we are using the shorthand for "muscle invasive". T1 is kind of in between "superficial" and "muscle invasive". I hate that superficial word also but I don't want to get too hung up on semantics.

While T1 is invasive into the into the submucosa, the submucosa is not muscle so it is therefore not "muscle invasive".

Should this be in the "Invasive Bladder Cancer" section of the forum instead of here in "Metastatic bladder cancer"?

Mike

Age 54
10/31/06 dx CIS (TisG3) non-invasive (at 47)
9/19/08 TURB/TUIP dx Invasive T2G3
10/8/08 RC neobladder(at 49)
2/15/13 T4G3N3M1 distant metastases(at 53)
9/2013 finished chemo -cancer free again
1/2014 ct scan results....distant mets
2/2014 ct result...spread to liver, kidneys, and lymph...

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9 years 11 months ago - 9 years 11 months ago #32541 by Cynthia
Where as T1 has invaded the lining or the submucosa of the bladder it is usually listed under non invasive. I personally feel it should be listed under invasive or given its own classification so that the seriousness of it is not missed.

There is a very good diagram on this page showing the bladder and types of growth.

http://www.connecttoresearch.org/publications/86

Tumors invading the bladder muscle (invasive bladder cancer)
In this case, bladder cancer has grown into the thick muscle of the bladder wall, but has not spread to the lymph nodes or distant organs.

http://www.uroweb.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Guidelines/05%20TaT1%20Bladder%20Cancer.pdf

Approximately 75-85% of patients with bladder cancer present with disease confined to the mucosa (stage Ta-
CIS) or submucosa (stage T1).

http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/348.cfm

Noninvasive Bladder Cancer

The majority of bladder cancers are transitional cell carcinomas (TCCs) that are noninvasive, or confined to the lining of the bladder.

Cynthia Kinsella
T2 g3 CIS 8/04
Clinical Trial
Chemotherapy & Radiation 10/04-12/04
Chemotherapy 3/05-5/05
BCG 9/05-1-06
RC w/umbilical Indiana pouch 5/06
Left Nephrectomy 1/09
President American Bladder Cancer Society

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9 years 11 months ago #32538 by Hox
I think your definition of invasive is incorrect. My cancer was invasive by the fact that it had grown in to the first layer of the bladder... not in to the muscle... I feel the description given may be misleading to those new to the subject... :silly:

Rick

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9 years 11 months ago #32537 by Cynthia
** This thread discusses the content article: Invasive Bladder Cancer **




Bladder Cancer is considered to be invasive if cancer cells have gone through the bladders lining and are present in the muscle.



When asked what five things they wish they had been told about their invasive bladder cancer

at the beginning, these were the top five answers.

  1. Always get a second opinion from a major center that deals with a high volume of bladder cancer. Studies have shown that the experience of the Urological Surgeon, Oncologist and Pathologists can make a difference in outcomes. Read More



  • What are the treatments for invasive bladder cancer? Read More

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  • What does stage and grade mean? Read More

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  • When you go to your doctor take along a list of your questions and someone to take notes.

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  • You are not alone. There are an estimated 1/2 million bladder cancer survivors in the USA alone. This bladder cancer community is free and open to all allowing them to share support and gather information.

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    Cynthia Kinsella
    T2 g3 CIS 8/04
    Clinical Trial
    Chemotherapy & Radiation 10/04-12/04
    Chemotherapy 3/05-5/05
    BCG 9/05-1-06
    RC w/umbilical Indiana pouch 5/06
    Left Nephrectomy 1/09
    President American Bladder Cancer Society

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