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  • canadian1

    Member
    May 6, 2020 at 12:58 pm

    Thank you Sarah. Good to know :)

    Ginette

  • dtat60

    Member
    May 6, 2020 at 4:17 am

    It obviously depends on the individual. I live an hours drive from my Urologist and have had #21 BCG treatments and have never had a problem. I have 2 cups of coffee morning before going in and give a urine sample upon arrival. So far haven’t had a problem holding it.

    Good luck!!


    08/16 Blood in Urine;09/16 CT Scan, RPG, Cysto;10/16 TURBT;12/08 BL TURBT;01/17 6X BCG;05/17 NED, 3X BCG, 9/17 NED, 3X BCG,1/18 NED, 3X BCG,7/18 NED, 3X BCG
  • sara.anne

    Member
    May 5, 2020 at 5:05 pm

    My urologist just sort of laughed when I told him I had read that I should keep turning after the instillation. Said that the bladder didn’t need that and it was sort of an “old wives’ tale.”

    Sara Anne


    Diagnosis 2-08 Small papillary TCC; CIS
    BCG; BCG maintenance
    Vice-President, American Bladder Cancer Society
    Forum Moderator
  • canadian1

    Member
    May 5, 2020 at 3:10 pm

    Hello Jim
    At KGH Hospital in Canada, as part of the protocol they keep you for the 2 hours during the course of the first treatment for monitoring and support . The following ones you go home depending on distance. In my case I am 1 hr away.

    I am not hearing from members of the 15 min body rotating during the first hour . My routine is to recline the passenger seat as far as I can and start the 15 min rotation as my husband drive the car. Of course the seat belt is a little bit of a challenge but I manage. When I get home I only have an hour left and keep my mind busy to avoid thinking of having to void. I have gone through 12 instillations so far and it seems to work for me.

    Ginette

  • knifedealer

    Member
    May 5, 2020 at 3:05 pm

    [quote=”sara.anne” post=59385] In fact I spent a lot of that time curled up on the bathroom floor since I would have to pee again within minutes. No way could I have gotten into a car and driven anywhere.[/quote]

    Pretty much mirrors what I go through.

    Traveling anywhere by car after the first void would be impossible for me, unless I was in the back seat, in prone position, with 3 gallon size plastic jugs: 2 of them filled with cold spring water, and 1 empty. Also, ear plugs for the driver to muffle my whimpering.

  • sara.anne

    Member
    May 4, 2020 at 11:54 pm

    Don’t really understand the “stay for two hours “ and then drive home proposition. I would hold it for as close to 2 hours as I could and then all hell broke loose for the next four to six. In fact I spent a lot of that time on curled up on the bathroom floor since I would have to pee again within minutes. No way could I have gotten into a car and driven anywhere. Just my experience for what it is worth.

    Sara Anne


    Diagnosis 2-08 Small papillary TCC; CIS
    BCG; BCG maintenance
    Vice-President, American Bladder Cancer Society
    Forum Moderator
  • knifedealer

    Member
    May 4, 2020 at 9:58 pm

    First you need to see what their policy is. In Shacky’s case, it appears that hanging around isn’t an option. At my clinic, they have a hospital bed with privacy curtain that sits off in a corner. I’ve always assumed that bed was the 2 hour resting place for those who live a distance away. As I wrote earlier, I hit the road as soon as they fill up my tank as I’m about 30 minutes or less from the clinic. If I lived 45 minutes away, I’d still opt to go home. In fact, twice I stopped at the pharmacy and marijuana dispensary on my way home. No problem.

    But remember, I’ve done this 9 times and never got the urge to pee until at least 1.5 hours or so after instillation. Your mileage may vary.

    It’s was all so overwhelming at first. After a short while, I figured out what worked best for me. I’m sure you will figure it out too. Everyone does.

    Keep in touch. As questions get resolved, new questions arise.

  • Kansaspo8

    Member
    May 4, 2020 at 3:12 pm

    Thanks everyone for the info. Appreciate all the advice. Such an unsure time for all this to be happening.

    Jim

  • knifedealer

    Member
    May 4, 2020 at 12:47 pm

    This thread illustrates how experiences differ from person to person.

    I live less than 30 minutes away from the uro clinic. I’ve had a total of 9 instillations: 6 induction treatments ending late 2019 and I just completed 3 additional weekly “maintenance” treatments on 4/30/20.

    The instillation process takes about 15 – 20 minutes including the time it takes to have a urine sample examined, getting prepared, numbing agent applied, etc. Once the nurse administers the BCG I am free to go. I drive myself home and then hold it for an additional 1.5 hours. While some may feel the need to urinate within the first hour, I don’t get the urge until well after that. I try to keep my mind occupied: watching TV or sleeping if possible. However once I begin obsessing about the thought of NOT urinating, the urge to urinate begins: go figure. That typically happens at about the 1.75 hour mark. At that point, I can only hold it for a few minutes longer. In retrospect: over the course of 9 treatments I’ve retained the BCG in my bladder for 2 hours on only 5 occasions (give or take) but I’ve always held it for at least 1.75 hours.

    If I had to stay at the clinic for 2 hours then drive home, the experience would be much worse for me. The 6 hours after first void has been the most challenging part of BCG treatment in my experience.

    Good luck to you.

  • shacky73

    Member
    May 4, 2020 at 4:06 am

    I asked to stay at MSK center for the 2 hours but they wanted me out ASAP. Said if I used a bathroom they’d have to close it for the day and decontaminate after I leave.

    I live 5 hours from where I was getting BCG. First 2 my wife drive me home. Then we stayed another night at hotel so I could rest up before driving home next day.


    T1 Grade 3 with CIS
  • Jacko

    Member
    May 4, 2020 at 1:43 am

    I think it might be affected by how the BCG is administered. I was kept in hospital for the full 2 hours and was able to leave after the first ‘pee’ at the end of the 2 hour stint. That meant I was able to drive home straight away with no problems. If the instillation is made and you are told to go home immediately and not ‘pee’ for 2 hours I would be hightailing it back immediately.

    I would be asking to wait for the full 2 hours and then ‘pee’ and go home.

    Jacko


    CIS diagnosed May 18
    2 TURBS
    6 BCGs 2018
    3 Maintenance BCGs 2019
    Return of CIS Sept 2019
    Bladder, prostate and urethra removal Oct 2019
  • Alan

    Member
    May 4, 2020 at 1:34 am

    I second Sara Anne. After each instillation, especially latter ones you want to be home because it will take several hours to a day to get back to normal once you get going from urgency, burning etc.


    DX 5/6/2008 TAG3 papillary tumor .5 CM in size. 2 TURBS followed by 6 instillations of BCG weekly with a second round of 6 after a 6 week wait.
  • sara.anne

    Member
    May 3, 2020 at 11:29 pm

    You are just going to have to see what works for you. I would try to get home ASAP. By the end of one hour you are going to really start to feel like you need to go. Sometimes I made it the entire recommended two hours and sometimes not quite. I would not have been wanting to drive that second hour.

    Sara Anne


    Diagnosis 2-08 Small papillary TCC; CIS
    BCG; BCG maintenance
    Vice-President, American Bladder Cancer Society
    Forum Moderator

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