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Speed of growth of tumor
Hello everyone. I was just wondering how fast a low grade, Ta tumor grows? The reason I ask is that mine was rather large (43 grams). I used to always complain of UTI-like symptoms while I was in law school, which was about 4 years ago. But, I can’t imagine this thing would have been growing in me for that long. Or, maybe it could have been. I have been told that these things are rapid-growing. Maybe I should ask my uro. Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone had any idea out there. Thanks for everything.
Best wishes to all,
Greg
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My tumour was found in March 2006 and was 4cm, I know it wasnt there in April 2005 because I had a scan for something else. I had no blood in urine and actually went to my GP for a scan for another complaint – hence they found the tumour. I did have what I thought was a mild urine infection – or the start of one on a continual basis but thought if I drank lots of wate it would clear itself. So even though I do not know how long it had been there sypmtoms which I now know to be bc only appeared in the late feb 2006.
Sally
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Pat why I tell the people I care about when your at the Dr. for whatever reason to ask for a urine test. As you mentioned how long was blood in my urine microscopic before I saw with naked eye. And physicals they should be mandatory part of exam. Sad part insurance companies don’t pay for urine tests. Dumbos wait for someone like me to get BC and then pay out thier A@@ for all your medical bills for tests, etc, and then if you need chemo like me just jack that # up bigtime. Seems so silly not to pay for a $30 or $40 for a simple test but then pay 100′ and 100’s and 100’s of thousand $$$$ paying thier customers claims. When I was in for TUR I had to stay an extra night since there was a problem the hospital and only the hospital bill was $54,585. Hats off to Insurance Co’s, Joe
sneaky little tumors!!….i had microscopic blood in my urine for 3 yrs….my internist said everyone has microscopic blood in their urine….ok…i bought that. Now the gross hematura caught my attention as there was a lot and it was very warm. It was very tiny but very lethal but was caught before it got outside the bladder. But i’m sure i was harboring it for 3 years which conincidently was at the same time my son had testicular cancer who was only 32 at the time………so interesting how some of this seems a little too close to conincidence….3 months after my diagnosis…one close friend came down with breast cancer…another at 32yrs old colon cancer. Start playing that ominous music now! Does make you wonder doesn’t it? Pat
lol. no problem at all. yes it is. I did the same myself – i was diagnosed 14 years ago after haematuria, went for tests, didn’t chase up the results and then had the same symptoms exactly a year later. with hindsight i was also encouraged by my GP who told me that because i was so young it was unlikely to be anything serious
all the best
tim
hey joe
thats me with the dead dad not greg! and i agree with you. I think he did probably have symptoms that either didn’t get noticed or he chose to ignore.all the best
tim
Fixed it—-.”And Tim I rather doubt your Dad had a tumor since he was your age with absolutely no symptoms I am sorry for your lost”. Thanks for replying to that Tim I am getting so stupid at times they said it is chemo brain lol but I do whacky things at times. But ain’t it ashame good folks still ignore these sypmtoms it never hurts no matter what to get it checked out. Your Buddy, Joe
hey joe
thats me with the dead dad not greg! and i agree with you. I think he did probably have symptoms that either didn’t get noticed or he chose to ignore.all the best
tim
When mine was dx it was 8cm and I personally don’t even think a Dr could tell tell you the speed of growth with these tumors. I was just recovering from left hip replacement and here this thing is growing inside me. I had no sypmtoms at the time. My hip replacement was Sept 26,06 and my first bladder symptom was hemutiuria on 12/5/07 so you tell me. Thats the sad part with any cancer most people don’t know till they get a symptom and depending on what kind of BC you have and how agressive it is would contribute to the speed of growth. My opoinion is this cancer attacks ones immune system and we all have different immune systems so since we are discussing BC being this is a BC forum each of us will have different kinds of tumors. And closing I don’t think the speed has jack to do with anything since mine was about 2 inches b4 any symptoms if so say why not when it was 3 cm did I not get a symptom which I did not. Cancer is a very tricky disease. And Tim I rather doubt your Dad had a tumor since he was your age with absolutely no symptoms I am sorry for your lost. But alot of folks just down right ignore any symptoms say hemuturia thinking oh it will go away. Example my wifes mom had colon cancer ignored all the symptoms and did not say boo hoo till she got sharp piercing pains in her right side. By this time it had spread to her liver and then it was too late. And the saddest part of all she could be here with us today if only she would of Doctored :-[ Best Wishes, Joe
Greg
My best guess would be that its highly variable. Ive had 2cm ta tumours spring up in 4 months and then pinprick ones appear after a year. Maybe the grade is more important than the stage in terms of growth speed but Im not sure. My dad died of BC 3 years ago and his tumour was large, could only be partly removed and extended through the bladder wall and out the other side. I often thought he could have had this tumour since the age I was diagnosed (29) and it didn’t do the real damage until he was 65/66. Just a gut feeling. I certainly feel lucky to have had the haematuria and to have noticed it. I could just have easily been peeing in a dark room in the middle of the night half asleep and not noticed it. Maybe thats what happened with my dad. Or mayb he never bled. I had no noticeable UTI symptoms although it can be amazingly subtle. Tumour cells apparently retain the stretchy properties of bladder lining and hence they don’t tend to exhibit pain or necessarily bleed as the bladder fills and empties.
I heard age can also be a factor. My doc reckons that with older patients the progress is sometimes so slow that they are conservatively treated as the chances of them dying first of natural causes is much greater. In younger patients I believe many types of cancer can progress more rapidly. Also, size of tumour is not necessarily an indication of prognosis.
Tim
Hi Greg
I do not know how fast thjey grow but my tumor was elongated and 3 cm. I also had numerous UTI symptoms for years. I saw blood in my urine off and on for six years and three pregnancies. The doc would always just treat me for a UTI. It is quite possible that you had that tumor for a long time.
Alyssa
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