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natural cures thru diet
Since I have the superfical type bc I am going to post my question here.
Pat pleaseeee feel free to throw in your two cents since you have studied bc so much and I value your opinion greatly.I have a friend that wants me to do the diet and suppliment stuff before I let the Drs put any (nasty stuff ) in me re. bcg.
what do you all think. She says that if you do it (Diet) the total way, your bodys immune system will take care of it.( the bc) Does anyone know of any studies done on this. Not studies done by the guys selling this kinda stuff. But unbiased studies.
She is a vegan and total health nut, and in the almost thirty years I have known her she hasn,t even had a cold.
The only risk factors I had for bcg was a couple of family members got it, but they both smoke alot. I donot smoke nor drink, I am very active, ski, bike ride , have horses, back pack.
I just had a small reoccurence, my second in four or five years. I am figuring when I go back to john hopkins next time , I might get the word about bcg.
Sooo feel free to chim in your knowledge or opinoin. Thanks , Rocky -
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The FDA has long regulated ethical pharmaceutical houses vitamins…what they can’t keep up with but are trying is all the other crap on the market….recently tons of stuff pulled claiming to be vitamins that had ED drugs in them….nice huh?
pat -
Thanks for the imput guys. I tend to agree that eating right sure won’t hurt you , and eating wrong can. But that said I believe in the power of the right medicine. I was just wondering if anyone knew anything about new studies being done.
I think if the fda takes over the whole vitiman thing ,stuff will really change . Rocky -
The reading on natural cures and foods that can improve our health is very interesting. I do take several of the more basic supplements; Omega-3, D-3, CoQ-10, and a general multivitamin.
That being said, if I receive an email or solicitation about diet or vitamins, I look to see who profits from it. If it’s the person recommending it, it immediately gets deleted. I used to read Dr. Weil frequently but after I learned that if you inquire about vitamins on his website, you get LOTS of solicitations to buy his vitamins. I don’t go there anymore.
As others pointed out, it is your health at stake. All we can do is to perform due diligence in our information gathering and make the best decisions based on that. Bladder cancer is a highly specialized field and the opinion of a top expert in that discipline should be given the utmost consideration. Remember that nothing has been definitively proven about diet or supplementation being a natural cure for BC.
Best wishes… CatherineTURBT 1/21/10 at age 55
Dx: T2aN0M0 Primary Bladder Adenocarcinoma
Partial Cystectomy 2/25/10
Vanderbilt Medical Center
Nashville, TN
Until I got my neobladder, I hadn’t seen a hospital since 1962.
Chances are diet won’t hurt in addition, but it certainly is no substitute for real medical care.
If your friend is wrong – you die. Don’t know about you, but I don’t have a friend good enough to throw away my life.
Lee
3 years cancer free after REAL medical care.
The old “everything is moderation, nothing to excess” makes most sense to me.
DX 5/6/2008 TAG3 papillary tumor .5 CM in size. 2 TURBS followed by 6 instillations of BCG weekly with a second round of 6 after a 6 week wait.
Rocky, hope you don’t mind me giving my two cents also. To me this whole topic of cause is very interesting. As far as taking your friends advice, who’s bladder is at risk? If you do take the advice and go with diet, and things go very bad how are you and your friend going to feel? It’s a very slippery slope. As for the never any colds, flu, or other illnesses, I read an article on that subject when i had my first cancer. It pointed to a study that said people who never got colds, etc, were more likely to have cancer. Very interesting to me, cause i grew up on a farm and before having bone cancer at 45yrs of age i had never had a cold, or flu. If you think about it, a lot of cancers are from your immune system over attacking something. Maybe the same reason we don’t get colds. It’s something we don’t know much about yet. I have talked to doctors a little bit about this subject, and they almost always say the same thing, “as doctors, we are so busy trying to cure cancer, we have no time to study the why”. Still then and now I am surprised there is not a standard form to fill out that goes to a national databank for all cancer patients.
Duke
This is MY opinion…and on this subject, no matter what anyone says, it is all opinion…not much science. IT NEVER HURTS TO EAT SENSIBLY. But when it comes to “special” diets, etc., it is a bunch of @#$%. Diet may have a major role in preventing bladder cancer, but…and here is the kicker….the cellular changes that led to our disease started 30 or more years ago. IF diet were to cure us, we would have had to do it way back then. The molecular changes in our DNA are already done.
Like Pat, I do try to watch what I eat…but I am not under any illusions about reversing cancer with diet. You should eat sensibly, try to stay away from the “bad stuff,” drink lots of fluids…you know the drill.
Sorry, but I am pretty sure that diet is NOT going to reverse anything.
Sara Anne
Diagnosis 2-08 Small papillary TCC; CIS
BCG; BCG maintenance
Vice-President, American Bladder Cancer Society
Forum ModeratorI don’t know Rocky..if your recur is still superficial the TURB might be all you need.
As for diet……they are making a killing out there promoting diet and natural cures for all kinds of cancer. Now i do think fast food is junk…….i know that our vegetables are filled with pesticides and i see recalls at least once a month so what good is broccoli and spinach filled with pesticide. WE’re told to peel our fruit now and not eat the peels…pesticides again. What are we feeding our livestock…umm antibiotics…there goes the meat and milk.
I do think its smart to eat sensibly.. i buy my eggs from chickens that have not been given antibiotics…i use Laura’s meats which does not use antibiotics……i don’t eat fast foods. But i still got cancer…two different types…and now i have blood clots which they have no idea why…i was on a binge of drinking green tea which has a ton of vitamin K in it..apparently not healthy for me as K is a clotting agent.
Read an article yesterday which was written by someone with cancer…..read to the end.
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/05/cancer-crime-tumor-board-courtroom.html
I have no idea but if there was a definitive diet that worked which didn’t involve something that when mixed up looked like bile i might try it.
By the way i often thought about colds as i never got them either..i think they’re actually good for you as they rev up the immune system and get those T cells active.
I do beleive in meditation and visualization though.
And being on coumadin right now i can’t have hardly anything green as its filled with K and I miss my brocolli and pesticide filled spinach.
xxxoooo Pat (my two cents worth which is about all i have after all those hospital bills)Sign In to reply.
