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    Posted by juwels on November 15, 2006 at 5:37 am

    Hello everyone,
    My dad was diagnosed with bc 3yrs ago, his first scraping they found 24 little tumors, 2nd 13 tumors, 3rd 6 tumors and 4th nothing….these were all diagnosed as superficial and he also went through the chemo directly to the bladder…I forgot what it is called :-?  Anyway he has just had another check up and he says everything was fine but it seems like he was just saying that because he didn’t want us to worry, my question is how long is the life ecpectancy for superficial bc?  Everything I’ve read says that 85% live 5 yrs from the time of diagnosis, what do the other 15% do, live longer or die sooner?  I know it’s just a statistic but is it legit?  He still hasn’t been able to quit smoking… :-/
    Any info much appriciated
    Juwels. ;)

    ps we also have a blood clotting disorder, does that have anything to do with this?

    brians replied 18 years, 1 month ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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    Brians

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    December 4, 2006 at 12:10 pm

    george burns (the one that played god)
    when interviewed on his 95th birthday told the story of how when he was 90 his doctor had told him he should give up smoking as it would kill him
    I think he lived till he was 100 and carried on smoking meanwhile 2 of his doctors had died
    So much for statistics

    Brian

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    Cta7978

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    November 27, 2006 at 7:29 am

    Had to read that response a couple times :P I meant to say that only a percentage of those with superficial bladder cancer who progress end up dying from the bladder cancer disease. I believe the rough statistics are something in the range of 50% (taking into account all of the invasive stages t2-t4), your odds are better with a t2 than a t4.

    (I’m throwing that figure out from the top of my head from memory – don’t ask me to dig up the data!)


    Chris A.
    Diagnosed T1G3 – 3/01/06
    37 yo, Seattle, WA
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    mike

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    November 15, 2006 at 11:44 pm

    Of course only a percentage of the people who progress actually die, some are cured with surgury or chemo/radiation.  However at this point it is no longer “superficial” bladder cancer, but invasive.

    Wow Chris,

    what percentage of those who progress never die?

    Where do I get that treatment? Sure you haven’t borrowed Mrs. Carpenter’s bong ;)

    LOL
    Regards,
    Greg L-W.

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    Cta7978

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    November 15, 2006 at 10:54 pm

    Really depends on how “superficial” the superficial bladder cancer was? If they were all TaG1 tumors, thats much better than a batch of “superficial” T1G3 tumors. The best guide I can provide you would be the EORTC risk tables calculator, key in your dad’s variables and it will give you a good statistical read of chances of recurrance and progression.

    http://www.eortc.be/tools/bladdercalculator/default.htm

    Of course only a percentage of the people who progress actually die, some are cured with surgury or chemo/radiation. However at this point it is no longer “superficial” bladder cancer, but invasive.


    Chris A.
    Diagnosed T1G3 – 3/01/06
    37 yo, Seattle, WA
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    wendy

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    November 15, 2006 at 12:11 pm

    Hi,

    Welcome on behalf of your father. Statistics for bladder cancer survival vary according to the stage of the cancer at detection. So called “superficial” bladder cancer has an even higher survival rate, more like 95% for 5 yrs.

    It all depends on the associated risk factors for recurrence and progression. Your father’s multiple tumors and recurrences would most likely put him in a slightly higher risk category, but the survival rates are still excellent. You can learn more from this page:
    http://blcwebcafe.org/staging.asp

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    mike

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    November 15, 2006 at 12:07 pm

    Hi,

    I had a nephrectomy in September 2001, I have had BC ever since, numerous TURs – life expectance!

    My urological oncology consultant rekons my life expectancy is running about the same as most of the population.

    Don’t worry about percentages as we may be the human race but no one is making book on who wins!

    Your Father is going to be a survivor or die – that is what statistics tell us – nothing more.

    BC 85% 15% what type, what country, what stage diagnosed, smokers or non smokers, regularly treated or what – just think of all the variables and then start to improve them for yourself and your Father.

    Do remember if your Father doesn’t care about living enough to quit smoking his problem is far greater than BC!

    Good luck and NEVER miss a check up. I am determined to fill an entire filing cabinet draw with notes – I’m only up to 3″ of urology notes so far ;)

    Regards,
    Greg L-W.

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