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    Posted by archrock on December 6, 2007 at 12:59 pm

    After surgery 3 months ago and 5 BCG treatments (I missed the 6th due to bad reactions to treatment and constant delays) I am scheduled tomorrow for another visit to the hospital for biopsies. My tumor was dx as non-invasive, non aggressive but my urologist said it was borderline because it looked “gross”. I am pretty worried and had another CT scan but don’t know the results. I imagine I will find out tomorrow before they put me out.

    Has anyone had this done? I knew I would need routine cystos but not biopsies. Can they determine if there is cancer while I am out or will I need to return if they find something later?

    wendy replied 16 years, 9 months ago 8 Members · 11 Replies
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  • wendy

    Member
    December 14, 2007 at 11:56 am

    [quote author=archrock link=topic=1533.msg11628#msg11628 date=1197548882]
    Got the results of the biopsies, no malignancy!!!! But do have cystitis which may be why I am feeling crummy. Infectious disease doctor gave me 2 week course of prednisone and 6 months on Iozionide, yesterday. I am waiting to talk to my urologist today to start on these meds.
    [/quote]

    Yikes! That must mean you have a BCG infection…in which case you’re very lucky to be doing as well as you seem to be! I hope you stay well, and clear too!
    Wendy

  • rosemary

    Member
    December 14, 2007 at 2:20 am

    Archrock,

    This is great news! ;D

    Rosemary


    Rosemary
    Age – 55
    T1 G3 – Tumor free 2 yrs 3 months
    Dx January 2006
  • Archrock

    Member
    December 13, 2007 at 11:28 am

    Got the results of the biopsies, no malignancy!!!! But do have cystitis which may be why I am feeling crummy. Infectious disease doctor gave me 2 week course of prednisone and 6 months on Iozionide, yesterday. I am waiting to talk to my urologist today to start on these meds.

  • wendy

    Member
    December 11, 2007 at 7:15 am

    Hi Archrock,

    Sometimes people who react badly to BCG are offered BCG (low dose) plus Interferon. It is very effective and less toxic. More expensive though, so not usually given unless BCG causes reactions and your insurance will pay for the newer combination. Worth asking, perhaps. More info here:
    http://blcwebcafe.org/interferon.asp

    Regular old BCG can also be lowered in dose without losing effectiveness. Discuss this with your doctor too (and more info on WebCafe’s BCG page).
    Wendy

  • Archrock

    Member
    December 9, 2007 at 11:46 pm

    Had the biopsies, waiting for results. My doc said that it all looked great, could see no tumors and he didn’t put in any chemo. I will find out about biopsies on Tuesday. He told me that I may have BCG once a month for 3 months followed by another cysto, with this pattern for the first year. Depending on biopsies will determine need for cysto in hospital. I left feeling okay, despite still getting cyclically ill with sore eyes and nauseus feeling every few days.

    I am getting followup with infectious disease doctor on Wednesday to see if I reacted badly to BCG.

  • Maxmag

    Member
    December 8, 2007 at 6:21 pm

    I ALSO HAD BIOPSIES AFTER BCG TREATMENTS.
    THOUGHT THIS WAS VERY WISE OF MY DR.(BTW,I WAS CLEAN)
    SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A GOOD DOC THERE.
    GOOD LUCK,
    MAX


    Max
    Age 70
    Ta G2
    Dx March 2007
  • star

    Member
    December 8, 2007 at 12:57 am

    SAME HERE AFTER THE VERY FIRST TIME HAD IT DONE OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND BCG AND INTERFERION AND MITYOCINE. DOC EXPLAINS IT LIKE THIS-THE CANCER SHEDS CELLS AND THEY FLOAT AROUND IN THERE HANGNING OUT WITH CHEMO IN HOPES TO KILL THOSE LITTLE GUYS BUT NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. I have had 8 turbts and 7 rounds of various chemo in less then 2 yrs so it sounds par for the course to get you healthy. my scopes are every 3 months. I will have my 10th scope in Feb and a biopsy again then.
    But for today I am free of clumps for the first time since this came in my life.
    take care. Star

  • rosemary

    Member
    December 6, 2007 at 11:37 pm

    Archrock,

    It sounds like your Urologist is just being very cautious.

    I had a repeat TURB 6 weeks after my initial TURB in order to look for “residual tumour”. My Doc said that “It’s very hard to get it all.”

    3 months and 5 BCG treatments later doesn’t exactly sound like he is looking for residual turmor, but it does sound like the Uroligist is being consciencious. I don’t get the idea that the Dr. knows something that you don’t know, I think he is just being cautious. If it were me, I would be glad about this.

    Good luck tomorrow,
    Rosemary


    Rosemary
    Age – 55
    T1 G3 – Tumor free 2 yrs 3 months
    Dx January 2006
  • wsilberstein

    Member
    December 6, 2007 at 8:40 pm

    [quote author=archrock link=topic=1533.msg11329#msg11329 date=1196949563]
    I am scheduled tomorrow for another visit to the hospital for biopsies. Has anyone had this done? I knew I would need routine cystos but not biopsies. Can they determine if there is cancer while I am out or will I need to return if they find something later?
    [/quote]After my mitomycin treatment (I didn’t have BCG) my next cysto was also an operative in hospital cysto for biopsies. My cancer was high grade, but also superficial. Since you will be in hospital and anesthetized, they can do everything that they did when they removed your original cancer. This does not mean you’ll be having biopsies every time or that something is worse than you thought. It’s probably just a post BCG follow up for a tumor that concerned your urologist.


    -Warren
    TaG3 + CIS 12/2000. TURB + Mitomycin C (No BCG)
    Urethral stricture, urethroplasty 10/2009
    CIS 11/2010 treated with BCG. CIS 5/2012 treated with BCG/interferon
    T1G3 1/2013. Radical Cystectomy 3/5/2013, No invasive cancer. CIS in right ureter.
    Incontinent. AUS implant 2/2014. AUS explant 5/2014
    Pediatrician
  • Guest
    December 6, 2007 at 5:46 pm

    Usually they just go in and do another cysto at 3 weeks but perhaps your uro wants to make sure he got all the margins on the first TURB? I would certainly ask why ? What did your first pathology report indicate? Pat

  • KALWASINSKI

    Member
    December 6, 2007 at 2:15 pm

    Try not to worry too much. My Doctor is doing the same thing with me. My growth was almost like yours it seems. It’s more like let make sure the problem does not return. As far as removing a new Cancer during your check up I think if it is very small that would not be a problem. I will be doing the same as you next week so best of luck to you.

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