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  • Do kegels improve pressure and speed?

    Posted by mmc on April 3, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    Just wondering if others who have had an RC could answer this question. Do kegels improve speed and pressure of urination?

    I usually sit now, since my RC although I have stood at urinals when I’m out and the stalls are occupied or too gross.

    I can usually completely empty my neobladder but there isn’t much pressure at all and it does take quite a while (a few minutes usually).

    I stopped doing kegels once I acheived daytime continence but I was wondering if I really should be continuing to do them and, if I do, if it will improve pressure.

    Thanks, Mike


    Age 54
    10/31/06 dx CIS (TisG3) non-invasive (at 47)
    9/19/08 TURB/TUIP dx Invasive T2G3
    10/8/08 RC neobladder(at 49)
    2/15/13 T4G3N3M1 distant metastases(at 53)
    9/2013 finished chemo -cancer free again
    1/2014 ct scan results….distant mets
    2/2014 ct result…spread to liver, kidneys, and lymph system

    My opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of ABLCS or anyone else. I am not a doctor nor do I play one on TV.
    irishguy replied 15 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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    Irishguy

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    April 11, 2009 at 8:40 am

    Mike,

    A good question. Like yourself, I stopped doing kegals as soon as day continence established itself. I never gave it another thought since – as I felt kegals were just for the prevention of incontinence, and since I established good performance from my Neo early on – kegals became much less of a priority for me. Also like yourself, I mostly sit down when voiding – except when out and about in public places. I feel that when in sitting position, voiding is a little easier to do and also easier to completely empty my Neo. In my experience, mostly it is easy to void quickly and to a lesser extent, sometimes more difficult. I do find a full Neo is much easier to completely void than a half full one. There are times also, regardless of sitting or standing that pressure seems low and flow is in stages.

    Perhaps practicing kegals again would address the times when the Neo is not emptying as good as it could be. It’s worth a try…


    Winning the battle :-)
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    melodie

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    April 5, 2009 at 3:23 am

    Pat,

    I have only written the first name….when I get really good at it, I’ll add the middle and last name. :) I keep trying to get my husband to compete with my artistic endeavors but he won’t participate…I suspect his flow isn’t strong enough and he knows I’ll show him up. By the way, this past Weds. we had a snowstorm at our house…6 inches and we lost power. So looks like I’ll have more time to practice. Will spring ever get here? Melodie


    Melodie, Indy Pouch, U.W.Medical Center, Seattle, Dr. Paul H. Lange & Jonathan L. Wright
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    April 5, 2009 at 1:34 am

    Melodie….for someone with a name as long as yours that can write your name in the snow…i gotta say..your pressure must be pretty good!!!heheehehehe
    :P
    Pat:woohoo:

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    melodie

    Member
    April 4, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Mike,

    When out and about, I just use one of those paper covers so I don’t make such a splashing mess. At home, I use a container to keep the splashing down and just pour the contents into the toilet….and I always leave the seat down cause my spouse at this age prefers to sit. So although he and I have changed positions, we’ve worked things out. I would guess the pressure produced by a neo or an Indy isn’t the same as our natural God given bladders but probably lots of people over 50 have that same complaint. :blink: Melodie


    Melodie, Indy Pouch, U.W.Medical Center, Seattle, Dr. Paul H. Lange & Jonathan L. Wright
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    mmc

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    April 3, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Melodie,

    Could you imagine the two of us living together? You putting the seat up and me complaining that I need it down? :D :woohoo:

    My wife thought it sounded hilarious! I always put the seat down anyway (well trained husband), but there certainly isn’t the same toilet splash these days either. :laugh:

    Mike


    Age 54
    10/31/06 dx CIS (TisG3) non-invasive (at 47)
    9/19/08 TURB/TUIP dx Invasive T2G3
    10/8/08 RC neobladder(at 49)
    2/15/13 T4G3N3M1 distant metastases(at 53)
    9/2013 finished chemo -cancer free again
    1/2014 ct scan results….distant mets
    2/2014 ct result…spread to liver, kidneys, and lymph system

    My opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of ABLCS or anyone else. I am not a doctor nor do I play one on TV.
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    melodie

    Member
    April 3, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    Mike,

    I have a Indy Pouch and when I empty and feel like there is still something left in the resevoir, I use kegels to force more urine out of the catheter…works for me. If I still feel like there is something still remaining, I then stand on my tip toes and bend slightly forward…just another trick that works for me…and I always stand to void. :) When at home, so I don’t make a mess, I use a container. I can finally understand why guys have to lift the lid and sometimes still make a mess. ha ha ! Melodie


    Melodie, Indy Pouch, U.W.Medical Center, Seattle, Dr. Paul H. Lange & Jonathan L. Wright

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