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  • mike

    Member
    November 4, 2006 at 7:43 pm

    Hi,

    two great Nations divided by a common language :-[

    Jelly in English means Jello in American!

    The subject header reads like some mad menu for The Adams Family!

  • rentanag

    Member
    November 4, 2006 at 6:45 pm

    Greg,

    I think your comment is an attempt at being humorous, unfortunately I don’t get the joke.  Please enlighten me.

    Lou

  • mike

    Member
    November 4, 2006 at 5:58 pm

    Hi,

    I don’t go much on the new party menu -Catheter & Jelly! :(

  • rentanag

    Member
    November 4, 2006 at 4:20 pm

    The normal procedure for catheterizing is to lubricate, but I don’t think numbing gel is used as well.  Just a water soluable KY Jelly is all that’s needed, unless there is some sort of anatomical issue with the urethra that CM might have.

    Lou

  • mike

    Member
    November 4, 2006 at 3:45 pm

    Hi,

    as a male – due to the greater length of the urethra – frequently for a flexi a jell is introduced which is more by way of lubricant AND mild antiseptic to avoid damage and also aid any abrasive damage – I understand that the urethra can be relatively dry internally. Also do bear in mind that at the neck of the bladder there is a sphincture muscle to close the bladder.

    Clearly on mechanical common sense the more times the sphincture is forced open by a solid object the more risk of damage especially if unlubricated.

    A measure of the frailty of the interior of the urethra, albeit easily expanded – there is the report of some idiot inserting the stem of a carnation into an errect penis for the amusement of his partner. This led not just to a hospital visit :-[ but to permanent damage requiring replacement of the urethra with a vein. I understand that the structure of a carnation stem is microscopic barbs pointing the right way for ease of insertion but making extraction more than somewhat eye watering.

    I suggest NO ONE tries this at home – catheters are more than enough!

  • rentanag

    Member
    November 4, 2006 at 3:30 pm

    CM,

    May I ask if you have a problem with your urethra in addition to your BC, and is that why you’re asking about a numbing treatment for cathing yourself? Because as far as I know a person doesn’t usually use anything to numb the area prior to catheterizing, of course when a person has a cystoscopy they (the urologist) frequently use some sort of anesthetic as the scope is usually quite large compared to when a person is catheterized.  I suppose if you were male that might be another issue, one I couldn’t relate to since I’m female.
    The best place to get this information however would be your surgeon’s office staff or the surgeon, or perhaps your primary physician if you’re more comfortable asking him/her.  Perhaps if you shared a little more about your situation there might be someone who could relate and then give you their take on your questions.

    Lou

  • Cm

    Member
    November 4, 2006 at 3:14 pm

    Do you need a steroid or topical anesthesia to avoid pain.

    Currently, I am using lignocine.

    Thanks,
    CM

  • Mikmckna

    Member
    November 2, 2006 at 11:40 pm

    CM,

    My Dr. had several different brand and size cath’s. He sent me home with approx 5 different ones to try out. It is amazing to me that there is such a difference but there truly is. BTW… the smallest does not mean the most comfortable.

    One more note on the lube… be careful NOT to pick up the “Warming” Jelly by mistake (lol)!


    Believe in yourself,
    Mike
    T1-G3, CIS
    RC w/ Neobladder 8/22/06
  • rentanag

    Member
    November 2, 2006 at 4:47 pm

    CM,

    I would imagine your surgeons office would be the ones to write the prescription for your catheter, then the pharmacy fills the prescription.  The jelly for lubrication has to be a water soluable one, and I recently had difficulty finding one when I was in my local Walgreen’s Drug.  There was only one product that was water soluable, and it was a KY-Jelly product.  Just make sure your read the label carefully because KY makes many different types of lubricant, and you don’t want to get the wrong kind.  Additionally I want to mention that this lubricant is mixed in with all of those other sensual type lubricants, and my one product as I mentioned was difficult to find.  Plus there was only one selection of that particular type of KY-Jelly, I almost missed it entirely as it was pushed back behind one of the other types.  You can imagine there are many fewer people needing it for the reason we have, than there are people who want the other type lubricant.

    Good Luck,

    Lou

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