BCG and septic systems

13 years 6 months ago #34426 by Julie
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Kimberly, When my husband had BCG treatment we were living in our motohome. We knew we didn't want bleach in our holding tank which is much smaller than a septic system. We were fortunate to have friends in the city who let us spend the two hours after treatment in their home and could pour bleach in their toilet.

Chlorine bleach kills all bacteria so I would think if anyone has used in their septic system after BCG treatments it might be a good idea to recharge the septic system. It may depend on the size as enough liquid would dilute the bleach. After all they use it to treat our drinking water.

Julie

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13 years 6 months ago #34400 by abeach
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I wish I had not been so vigilant about using the clorox and had thought about the tablets. Who knew? Cynthia, thank you for your advice. I guess I will ask around about septic tank services. All I know is where ours is, and the crabapple tree is lush beside it, and that it is a very large tank. I plan on putting the house on the market next summer, if I decide to retire, then it would be better to take care of this now. You all are the best!

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13 years 6 months ago #34396 by Alan
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Kimberly,

I used a tablet of bleach/clorox that you can buy at grocery stores for toilet bowls. That way it actually disperses a smaller amount with each flush. While the TB toxin is something you need to be serious about my URO also made one observation. If it was super toxic he wouldn't let his staff handle it. Extreme care is the word.

DX 5/6/2008 TAG3 papillary tumor .5 CM in size. 2 TURBS followed by 6 instillations of BCG weekly with a second round of 6 after a 6 week wait.

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13 years 6 months ago #34393 by Kimberly
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There just doesn't seem to be a definitive answer to this. I have asked many people and read many points of view on bleach & septic. The conventional wisdom answer is that the small amount (1/4 cup) used in a load of laundry a couple of times per week should not present a problem. Everyone here knows that BCG would represent a whole lotta laundry.

I think most septic installers would love to sell you some enzymes or whatever to stimulate the good bacteria growth in the tank, but frankly, you add those enzymes every time you (for lack of a more adult way of saying this) make a number two. However, it seems that flushing the BCG down the toilet is adding a whole bunch of very bad bacteria. I can't even imagine that the municipal sewer systems want this any more than our septic tank does. Adding the bleach might cancel out everything, but then trying to get the levels right might be like sawing a little bit off each leg of a dining room table and hoping that everything levels out nicely.

Let me ask this question for those of you that have been through this: Do you stay in your doctor's office for the duration and have it drained out while you're there? Or do they inject the BCG and send you on your way? One conversation I've had with my doctor's office is that for the first of the two hours, you are lying down, and every fifteen minutes you rotate 90 degrees. (Why do I picture a chicken on a rotisserie?) For the second hour, you can do whatever you want, except pee.

Do you spend the second hour at the doctor's office, or are you supposed to rush right home with your bleach?

Assuming that I stayed the full two hours at the doctor's office and peed it all out there, then for the six hours afterwards, could I just use the same toilet at home and NOT flush until the six hours was up, and then only do the 2 cups of bleach that one time?

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13 years 6 months ago - 13 years 6 months ago #34389 by Cynthia
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I was a Realtor working in rural areas so I know more about septic systems than I want to. The problem with septics is they work on bacteria, that is how they compost what they do. Bleach kills off both good bacteria and bad. This can cause your system to stop working properly, bladder cancer and a floating septic system just want anyone needs. Call a septic guy that has been around for a long time and tell them what you are dealing with and get their advise. I had talked to a guy I knew about pumping the system after BCG and adding good bacteria back, we were not sure and we did not want to be wrong about it working. When I have seen this discussed most agree that you are better off to go somewhere they have municipal sewer with your little brown bag of bleach to be on the safe side.

Cynthia Kinsella
T2 g3 CIS 8/04
Clinical Trial
Chemotherapy & Radiation 10/04-12/04
Chemotherapy 3/05-5/05
BCG 9/05-1-06
RC w/umbilical Indiana pouch 5/06
Left Nephrectomy 1/09
President American Bladder Cancer Society

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13 years 6 months ago #34388 by abeach
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HELP! I am on a septic system and never think about it. And to my knowledge have not had any problems but how would I know? I did the 2 year BCG regimen from 2003-05. Started back in Fall of 2009. For 3rd round 3 weeks ago they cancelled the 3rd treatment and said no more. So I have flushed many gallons of Clorox into the system. And now I don't know what to do or look for. Can anyone help me or give me advice?

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