Papillary and CIS...relationship?

I also was dx with TA low grade in December. First cysto in April showed no tumor, cytology and fish were negative and three pathologist stated atypical cells on biopsy. One said focal CIS.

Two weeks later, had a larger portion of the site removed, kidney/ureter wash was negative, two pathologists said no sign of carcenoma on biopsy, the same pathologist who saw the CIS the first time, saw it again in the biopsy.

Now deciding on treatment as just had stent removed after 7 weeks.

Joe

I had a single papillary tumor arising out of CIS......they only thought they were looking at a tiny little tumor until they got in there and discovered the CIS lurking beneath and into the muscle. Its very sneaky! Pat

I also have papillary - Ta and CIS. My papillary was found in Nov 06 - I was clear for 3 Cystos then on the forth - red velvety patches were biopsied and sure enough CIS. So I would have to say, according to my history they are independent. Some people just get a papillary Ta once and it is removed - then nothing else comes back . I have never had another tumor - just the red patches. Of course, I am not happy about
the CIS, however BCG does work well on CIS and not just Ta. I guess I am looking for a silver lining to the cloud !