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10 years 8 months ago #15041 by gina
wow!! hard to top that explanation!! however, i went to the site which said bcg was an "active virus"...i found this on that same site! sheesh!!! "BCG: An effective immunization against tuberculosis . "BCG stands for Bacille Calmette Guérin. BCG is a weakened (attenuated) version of a bacteria called Mycobacterium bovis which is closely related to Mycobacterium tuberculosis, the agent responsible for tuberculosis."

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10 years 8 months ago #15039 by wsilberstein
Hmmm... well you might read things on some fairly authoratative web sites that quote misinformation or even misunderstand the correct information, but any physician ought to know that BCG is a bacterium - in fact the B stands for Bacille which is French for Bacillus which is a specific form of bacterium. The mycobacteria of which tuberculosis is a family member is a fairly advanced bacterium, even demonstrating some branching growth structures similar to the fungi which are multicellular - very far from a virus which is an incomplete cell and can only grow inside another cell.

-Warren
TaG3 + CIS 12/2000. TURB + Mitomycin C (No BCG)
Urethral stricture, urethroplasty 10/2009
CIS 11/2010 treated with BCG. CIS 5/2012 treated with BCG/interferon
T1G3 1/2013. Radical Cystectomy 3/5/2013, No invasive cancer. CIS in right ureter.
Incontinent. AUS implant 2/2014. AUS explant...

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10 years 8 months ago #15037 by gina
oops..my previous post should've been to you rosemary...sheesh, shows where my heads at...smiles...anyway..another quote from Dr Lamms' protocol, "Bacillus Calmette-Guerin (BCG), which is an inactivated form of the bacterium Mycobacterium tuberculosis,"...also, rosemary...it would seem strange that if our symptoms occured as a result of a virus that they would be treated with an antibiotic...my doctor gave me one to take today as a result of my symptoms the first round!! more food for thought...take care, gina

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10 years 8 months ago #15032 by Rosemary
Gina,

We are obviously not the only people who are confused about whether BCG is a virus or a bacterium. Try Googling each term and you will get the medical community calling it both. There is actually a HUGE difference in a bacteria and a virus. My Doctor referred to it as a "live attenuated virus."

But, as you say, it is not as important to us as it is to researchers. It does make you want to do your homework when so much is at stake. At least it makes me want to do my homework....

This is from medicine.net

PRECAUTIONS: Because this medication contains active virus, it is important to pour household bleach into the toilet after urinating and before flushing for up to 6 hours after receiving the medication. This will prevent the infection caused by the virus from spreading.
http://www.medicinenet.com/bcg_vaccine-chemotherapeutic/article.htm

Rosemary
Age - 55
T1 G3 - Tumor free 2 yrs 3 months
Dx January 2006

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10 years 8 months ago #15031 by Patricia
Its all right here........http://blcwebcafe.org/bcg.asp
Pat

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10 years 8 months ago #15030 by gina
nancy...if an individual treatment is indicative of whether or not the bcg is working then i'd say i should be a little worried...smiles...my first was by far worse in "symptoms" than the second...virtually none yesterday!...also, you and others here know so much more than i about all of this, yet everything i've read refers to bcg as being a bacteria, this was taken from Dr Lamms protocal for what should be done following treatments..."The toilet must be neutralized of any live bacteria; this is done by pouring 2 cups of household bleach into the water and letting it stand for 15-20 minutes."...i am not sure about whether it is a virus or bacteria...and frankly it really doesn't matter to me...the more i read, the more confused i become...

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