Sorry about some of the confusion. I had my meeting with my Doc today. As for the 4 turb's--The first was to remove as much of the tumor as possible, grade 3 agressive very large,1/3 the size of my bladder.He said it was so bloody that he had to stop.Second was to remove the rest of the tumor and try to locate the opening to my left kidney(ureter).The third was to locate the ureter and check for new growth,none found.Next were the 6 BCG treatments. After that,the fourth was to resect around the area where the opening to the ureter should be. Still could not find it so I went for an Endoplelopomy,the Doc tried to push through the bladder wall but could not because of suspected scar tissue. One week later tried agin with success. Doc put stent in,one week later my Uro Doc replaced the stent and resected around the opening to my ureter, the cancer found was around the opening, not in the ureter . He showed me the pix and explained just where the cancer was----Not what I thought he ment from his first phone call. I guess I assumed to Much. After thlking to my Doc I've decided to have my bladder removed. I'm going to have the outside bag because it seems to be less maintenance.