Hello Peter - I haven't been active on the site for a while...my husband Harry had his RC in 10/07, went through chemo (as a precautionary measure) and is now back to work at his seasonal job (he's retired and works Apr - Oct to keep himself busy.) I may be jumping into the middle of this conversation, but I have a few comments and questions myself. You live in Nevada and are going all the way to NY for surgery to get the outside bag? We live in central CA. Harry was diagnosed in late 7/07. After trips to the urologist, oncologist, and scans and tests the PET scan showed only bladder involvement. By this time it was late-August. After discussion with his local oncologist regarding treatment options, Harry opted for surgery. He wanted to put-off surgery until after his seasonal job came to an end 10/31, since it had been several months with all the testing, etc. but the oncologist recommendation went something like this..."we needed time to do all the tests to determine location and to see if there was other spreading (thankfully not) and now is the time to ACT (he emphasized this!) - don't put it off any longer!" His local urologist offered him the outside bag, in surgery performed at our local hospital, but, due to Harry's otherwise excellent health and age (61) the uro suggested we see a specialist (Dr. Gill) at Stanford Medical Center, about three hours from our home regarding the neo bladder. An appointment was scheduled in mid Sept. and after the consult the surgeon scheduled the surgery at his next available time 10/1/08. It was our understanding all along, that the outside bag was not as complex a surgery as for the Indiana or neo bladder, that's why several urologists perform it here locally. We opted for the neo bladder so needed to travel to have it done. The reason I bring this up is because you live in Nevada and are traveling to NYC to have the outside bag surgery? I don't understand the need for this; especially when there are west coast hospitals, Stanford and USC (both top notch)in CA that I know about and another in AZ where someone else on the site (Peter K?) had his done (and I think he has an outside bag). Also, you've asked about the surgery and recovery. Harry's lasted 5 hours, but like one friend who already had his prostate removed said, it was like having three surgeries, one to remove the bladder, one to make the neo from his intestines and one to remove the prostate with the nerve sparing procedure! (WOW, pretty intense if you think of it that way) Recovery is rough. Bowel problems are common. Getting them to "work right" is a trial and error kind of deal - even with the outside bag for Gene, Ginger spoke to that issue repeatedly. You mention traveling across country visiting friends prior to your surgery (which isn't scheduled yet?), but how are you going to get home? We thought being three hours away from Harry's hospital was bad if there had been any complications after he was released...(there have been bowel issues for some after original discharge that require re-admittance) If you are discharged within the week or so (usual time frame from surgery to discharge), I assume you are still going to have some soreness (maybe "more" than "some"),like I said, maybe I am getting into the middle of a continuing conversation, and this is none of my business, but we'd personally much rather be closer to home when facing this surgery and the recovery it takes, but that is just our opinion. Harry and Margot