Mike\'s crazy theory on BPH and Bladder cancer

14 years 1 month ago #30369 by Webs
Hey Mike

Just want to throw in that a lot of women I know are proud of how long they can go before having to use the restroom especially in public. Public bathrooms are dirty, not enough at sporting or concert events.

I know that I used to be a world champion at holding. Kind of ironic since now I am at the opposite end of the spectrum. So the women may not have had a problem voiding, but I bet most of them practiced holding. :woohoo:

So the problem could be valid for both sexes.

Webs

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14 years 1 month ago #30368 by mmc
OK. I got an interesting response from my uro (at a research/teaching hospital) about my idea.

Here is my response back:

So...bottom line is there may be some value in researcing post-void urine retention in bladder cancer patients to see if it is higher.

I will keep you all informed if this winds up going anywhere.


Mike

Age 54
10/31/06 dx CIS (TisG3) non-invasive (at 47)
9/19/08 TURB/TUIP dx Invasive T2G3
10/8/08 RC neobladder(at 49)
2/15/13 T4G3N3M1 distant metastases(at 53)
9/2013 finished chemo -cancer free again
1/2014 ct scan results....distant mets
2/2014 ct result...spread to liver, kidneys, and lymph...

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14 years 1 month ago #30358 by mmc
My guess is no because there are many different kinds of cancer so each would require different conditions for it to develop.

Since my mother (47) and her mother (55) died of breast cancer, we made sure my daughter was getting routine screenings earlier than we would have otherwise. In my mother's case, they said she probably had it for 10 years prior to diagnosis and she was diagnosed at 45. That's just one example.

Now if everyone in the family had diets that were high nitrites or something and family recipes stayed around through generations or there was a family dynamic that everyone smoked.... The idea being that they are sharing one or more risk factors that are known risks for different types of cancer. Then they (as a group) would be more likely to get different types of cancers simply because they participate in high risk (for cancer) activities.

As far as I know, there is not a genetic condition that would span multiple types of cancer in a family tree. Environmental risk factors, can be more common in a family but it's exposure to the risk factor and not in the genes.

Again, just my opinion... :)

Remember, everybody used to just die of old age. Now, it's cancer or heart failure of some sort.

My father died of cancer, parents died of cancer (F-Lung, M-Ovarian).
My mother died of cancer, her parents died of cancer (F-Lung, M-Breast).

Mike

Age 54
10/31/06 dx CIS (TisG3) non-invasive (at 47)
9/19/08 TURB/TUIP dx Invasive T2G3
10/8/08 RC neobladder(at 49)
2/15/13 T4G3N3M1 distant metastases(at 53)
9/2013 finished chemo -cancer free again
1/2014 ct scan results....distant mets
2/2014 ct result...spread to liver, kidneys, and lymph...

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14 years 1 month ago #30357 by vgau
OK I'm off your original theories again, but I've been wondering about just plain cancer heredity. My grandma died of colon cancer, my mother just died of multiple myeloma, and now I have bladder cancer. Has this ever been discussed?

Dx 10/5 Non Invasive Papillary

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14 years 1 month ago #30356 by mmc
Jim,

LOL! The Dr. Mikenstein theory is that heredity plays a part from a genetic standpoint (higher predispotion in the genes) as well as lifestyle. Diet (not to mention smoking) tends to go generation to generation (with exceptions, of course).

Of course, if I was a doctor, I wouldn't be able to say those things. :) (No offense Warren, I have a lot of respect for doctors).

Mike

Age 54
10/31/06 dx CIS (TisG3) non-invasive (at 47)
9/19/08 TURB/TUIP dx Invasive T2G3
10/8/08 RC neobladder(at 49)
2/15/13 T4G3N3M1 distant metastases(at 53)
9/2013 finished chemo -cancer free again
1/2014 ct scan results....distant mets
2/2014 ct result...spread to liver, kidneys, and lymph...

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14 years 1 month ago #30355 by Humpy
Dr. Mike-n-stien, lol
No voiding issues here. Just a smoker, and my dad, and his dad died of bladder cancer, But we all know it's not heretitory.............. :whistle:

Age 54
T1NOMX,Grade 3 Urothelial CIS (Carcinoma in Situ)
Neobladder 5/19/2009
Prostate Capsule Sparing
U of M Hospital, Ann Arbor, Michigan

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